Timothy Coleman (00:03.794)
Over the summer of 2023, Coleman Global partnered with Sage USA to bring the Colors of Sound podcasting workshop to LGBT plus older adults in New York City. The intergenerational sessions focused on finding your point of view and the art of storytelling. Each week, participants crafted their own topics for discussion, developed their own questions to help move the conversations along, spoke about podcasting equipment and had brief discussions on how to market podcasts online.

Throughout the workshop series, the participants shared their personal stories of both struggle and of triumph. We laughed about the things that are common in society and debated those things that divide our global community. Welcome to the Colors of Sound podcast. You are now a part of the conversation. Does everybody have something that they either cook or really enjoy for the holidays? What do you look forward to in terms of culinary arts around the holiday time?

Hmm? Stuffing? OK, so that opens up a huge conversation, stuffing versus dressing. Right? I got checked on that so many times. I think it's regional. I think it's really regional, it felt like, to me, because it came down to stuffing is what you put in the bird, dressing is what you put on the side. And I was just like, it's the same.

I mean, but do you... It's not stuffin' or dressing. It says stove top. It's not stuffin' or dressing. Look at that. That's the only one that I eat. I don't like that other stuff. It's not stuffin' or dressing. Okay, talk to me. What is it? I don't know.

Timothy Coleman (02:16.103)
That little square stuff you get in the water. Oh my god, that's funny. That's what I do. We need to go a deeper dive. Yes. Or older lesbians. And as we're growing older.

understanding that there are certain nutritional concerns, dietary restrictions. Okay, so there are some of us who are not eating pork. There are some of us who are allergic to shellfish. There are some of us who really don't want your chestnuts. No thing in the stuff thing are just saying. On the side.

I'm vegetarian, I'm vegan, I'll do the non-dairy, but honey, if you got some collard greens, uh oh. If you got some collard greens, you know, make sure you put some up for me because they're the first thing to go. Do you eat the glory greens? Glory greens, Lord have mercy greens, pin hop greens, smoked turkey wing greens.

Right, right. Completely vegetarian with just garlic and onions greens. Okay. And potlick. Now greens, that's when Thanksgiving comes around. And I go to maybe a couple of different friends' homes or whatever, a couple. They have greens. And I try to be, I don't know.

right word is right now but yeah diplomatic so yeah right I'll say well you know

Timothy Coleman (04:07.026)
And they go, but you haven't tasted these yet, dad. Taste them. Oh, god, that's everybody's favorite statement. Taste them. That's everybody's favorite statement. You haven't tasted these. You haven't tasted mine. And I say, I don't eat anyone's greens, only my mother's. My mother's greens, my mother's baked macaroni, my mother's yams, my mother's, you know, the whole nine yards. And then here I am, you know, suffering, like, take a little bit of this and a teaspoon, a teaspoon, mind you. Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (04:39.242)
You can put just a teeny bit of greens on a fork, and I can tell you if it's right or wrong. It doesn't take a whole... If it comes to condiments with the greens, is it with vinegar? There you go. Is it with hot sauce? Is it with tomatoes? I mean, you'd be surprised. Oh, I've never had greens with tomatoes. You haven't eaten a sage, have you? No. Greens with tomatoes? That whole vinaigrette thing?

Oh, gosh. And I was being really brave that day. I was like, oh, OK. And that was that. And then I just want to put it in the napkin, so I swallowed it. Oh, my god. And then you left and threw it up. Yes, I did. Yeah. And then I had heartburn for the rest of the day. Right, right, right. The acidity flux was like digging in from all of that. So I'm in agreement about the stuffing, right? I do start with cornbread. Now, this year, I promised myself

homemade cornbread instead of from the Jiffy box. All right, so I'ma be honest, it's from the- I thought homemade was Jiffy. Wait. No, I mean the long old fashioned way. We know that's gonna be our first sponsor, it's gonna be Jiffy. All right. Yeah, come on Jiffy. Come on. And stall time. Yeah. And we made Jiffy for y'all. Yeah. Thank you for my line made to Jiffy. And my mom always brought a little sugar. Just a little sugar. Yes, yes.

Timothy Coleman (06:06.222)
Just a little bit. Right. And hold on. And you've got to pour a little more grease on it. A little more. My mother does the same thing. A little. We're talking about the fat. We're talking about the fat from the cheese. Wait, wait, wait. You've got to put it in a bacon pen.

Timothy Coleman (06:25.226)
Bacon's so-

Timothy Coleman (06:36.01)
that natural.

In a cast iron skillet. I was about to say, if it's not a cast iron skillet, it's not that amazing. It's still not happening. If it's not in that cast iron skillet. It cooks so different. Oh my god, I love that crunchiness on the bottom. Oh my god, come on. But I can appreciate what you're saying, Ms. Jackie, because you're taking it back. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, she's, yeah. All the way back. Well, yeah. I can't change that, but now my older sister. And you shouldn't.

Timothy Coleman (07:12.698)
You don't have to say her name, but you can say the... She has a lot of friends of a different... Okay. Persuasion. You look like a bougie move, okay? A little bougie. Okay, because I love me some bougie. So, what I'm going to do is make her stop it. Where? In Walnut?

Timothy Coleman (07:37.198)
Oh, the raisins. Edible walnuts, and apples. Apples, yeah. In, wait, in what? In the dress, in the dress, in the skirt. Look at your face. Yeah. They can only see your face. Come on, exactly. Come on. Oh, girl.

Timothy Coleman (07:55.754)
Are they what? No. You are so funny. Yeah, no, that's cultural. Like that's straight up cultural. That's straight up cultural. So why did you say bougie? It's white. It's just cultural. My aunt is the most crazy.

She eats human ratio. OK, wait, wait. Your aunt? She eats my aunt. She's a little crazy. What you mean crazy? With like, school distance? Imaginary dis-turn? Oh, OK. She has a diagnosis somewhere. A family gave it. Yeah, a family diagnosis. That's not crazy. We call that crack crack. Crack crack.

Timothy Coleman (08:38.904)
Yeah.

She tried to get an apple, but peanut butter. OK, wait, wait. OK, so here's a question. Here's a question. Do you put celery in your stuffing? My mother does. And we also need to think about seasoning. Sage, right? Sage. Thyme and some bay leaves, all that stuff that I pick out. Sage, OK, so I use it's a.

It's applewood smoked chicken sausage. Oh. It's absolutely delicious. There's so much flavor in it, it's ridiculous. You know, that sausage is at Cafe Latte on Lennox Avenue. Note to self. I'm telling you, it's delicious. It's delicious. So what we need to do is, all of you people who cook. Well, that leaves me out. We need to bring you some stuffing. Oh, that'd be nice. Ooh.

You know, bringing in a small thing of stuffing. Yeah, because it's just going to be portion control samples. Well, whatever. You make a big one. Oh, lord. Well, if you do that, then she can have the stuffing. I ain't trying to be, you know, I don't need my feelings that stomped on, OK? Like, I'll do something different. Like, we should all, like, do something for, like, a little colors of sound Thanksgiving. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's do our own. I'll bring the.

plates and yeah like it's I got the egg nog. Oh my lord. Y'all are just too much. Y'all are too much. Who want to bring the rump? She's gonna sit over here shaking. See that's the auntie you snuggle up next to. Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (10:34.326)
You know, dip the cornbread in the stuff. How do you keep it all together? Because...

I got my water, I put my chicken necks, and my gizzards, and my liver in King's Boxers. Is that not turkey necks you mean, right? That's where I chop up my celery real fine. So I got my celery, my onions. Right, yes, definitely onions, definitely peppers. I love like peppers in there, but I don't eat like gizzards and all these other pieces of meat. I do the color red or the yellow. Well isn't it like sofrito? Isn't that like...

Saffritto, yeah, with just like onions, garlic, peppers, yeah, that kind of thing.

Timothy Coleman (11:22.6)
to pour the cornbread in the cornbread, okay? Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Yes, yes, yes.

Timothy Coleman (11:30.8)
Yeah. You put the liver in and you get it. You chop it off. But wait, wait. But you're saying. You pull the meat off the neck. Mm-hmm.

Timothy Coleman (11:42.559)
We done took a bus to Mississippi. Okay, come on. That's super down home. My grandmother was from. Oh yeah, yeah. You've got to. Oh folks cook the day before. And everything. Right. All the food. And the reason why, they put the stuffing in the bird.

is because they didn't have a lot of cookware. Mm. OK? So if you're making a turkey, you don't have another pan. You put it in the oven. Oh my god, I didn't know that. No, the other thing you haven't recognized since I was a kid was service officers. I'm sorry. In the Air Force. Number. But you sold it. That's the part. You sold it. I was going to say my grandmothers. What was your certificate number?

Timothy Coleman (12:36.142)
I mean that does happen. That does happen. You gotta make sure that you're not gonna get foodborne disease, okay? So, if you're gonna put the stuffing in the turkey, that stuffing has to be eaten. And if it's gonna be put in the fridge, you gotta scoop it on out of there. You gotta look at the time, the time and date, because it can't stay in there for a week. Right, right. The turkey can't stay in there for a week. That's how many people have lost the whole turkey because it's spoiled.

Timothy Coleman (13:08.138)
You know we are all trying our best to maintain our budget. You make a little frozen packet for Marie, for Star, for Jackie. Go ahead and end.

so that you can take it for lunch. You know? I love you some turkey sandwiches, I'm a vegetarian. But I like the turkey sandwich on sourdough bread with a Helman's, mayonnaise, salt and pepper. Oh! Oh yes! Jersey tomato. All right, so what is the secret? All right, hold on a second. What's the secret? Noodles for what?

Timothy Coleman (13:49.918)
Oh, turkey soup, turkey soup, turkey soup.

Timothy Coleman (13:57.65)
Because you sit there real quiet, okay? And then all of a sudden she just screams noodles.

Timothy Coleman (14:07.496)
Oh, no!

Timothy Coleman (14:17.714)
Sue, who am I? She said, you're the turkey soup man. He made turkey soup. Oh, I love to stand there. No, it was funny because you think about it, and it makes me smile. We have antidotes in our. Antidotes. Yes. Throughout our holidays, but holidays also bring up grief, depression, losses. But when you can think of a.

Yeah. Wow. Okay. All right. But wait a minute. So what is the, what's the secret on keeping that turkey moist? I thought you said this was a PG. I thought this was PG. I can't do it. I will be so thin you won't. Wait, I'm sorry. Tell me. No wonder they have so much less. Thank you. That's why you're eating it for a week.

OK.

Timothy Coleman (15:18.61)
Upside down. Turn it upside down, but as it's cooking, the juices running down into the bread. Got it, got it, got it. No, the whole turkey. Okay. Turn it over to brown. Okay, so at what point then do you flip it the other way, just towards the end to just put some color on it? Hey, that sound like Bobby Brown, smack it. Hey, now Bill, hit the vote. Oh, it's my prerogative. Yes.

That makes sense though, that makes sense. Okay, that makes sense.

Timothy Coleman (15:58.749)
They should hire us.

Timothy Coleman (16:03.799)
Okay. Put that lady in the bag. Yeah. She is so moist. I have to try that. Okay. Wow.

Timothy Coleman (16:23.194)
Wow. Help me, Rhonda. I'm hungry. Fried turkey. Okay, well, so tell me what's up with that. How do you, how are you, are you talking about like it's cut up and then they fry it like chicken or the whole thing? Yeah, but people, yeah, people blow up their backyards over that.

Timothy Coleman (16:49.742)
severely because I'm sorry go ahead.

Timothy Coleman (16:56.654)
The temperature has to be a certain thing and the turkey...

Timothy Coleman (17:02.531)
Right. So, right, so you're talking about...

peanut oil but the turkey must be like room temperature at some point right like because i've seen people you know what i'm saying like that's what you see on tv though you know i'm saying we see those uh yeah that's it that's so funny

Timothy Coleman (17:35.886)
I tell you, it's dangerous.

Timothy Coleman (17:42.546)
And every Thanksgiving she would do the fried turkey for a sage. Oh wow, that's dope. My stomach is hurting here, sage. Let me tell you something, people are going to be trying to keep up with this conversation. I'm loving it. Okay, so mac and cheese. What do we got with mac and cheese? Who's got the best mac recipe? Come on. I don't eat mac and cheese.

Timothy Coleman (18:15.209)
Not today, one day at a time. No, I love mac and cheese. So what about like gluten free, like are you, you know what I'm saying, like gluten free noodles or like any of this sort of thing? Like, you know. No, I don't do rice, flour or pasta.

Timothy Coleman (18:34.004)
No, because I have a little pasta machine, right? And so I can use different types of flour, right? And yeah, you can make your own. You can also use vegetables. Yes, you do. Yeah, like veggie pasta, right? You could. Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (18:51.818)
Right, right, right.

Timothy Coleman (19:05.151)
That's about portion control. It, yeah. You can eat whatever you want. I use carnation milk. My mother does too.

Timothy Coleman (19:14.306)
Give me a check, give me a check. You always gotta go with all the share the family. Yeah, extra sharp, yes. No, I don't. But not from Cracker Barrel. You do different cheese. Why not? I use sharp, extra sharp, mild, a little mozzarella. OK. And you can put a little.

really smooth. That's how I'm on the list. But you need a mixer all to them. Of all of them. Help me, Rhonda. My God. You see, I gotta start over. So if you have Celiac, I think that is perfect for free. Okay. Some people don't even know they have Celiac. Wait, wait, hold on one second, hold on one second. Say it again. So Celiac is what people, that's a disease.

avoiding gluten because of the symptoms. So the symptoms are constant diarrhea or constipation, severe weight loss, I should be... Well, after all that diarrhea. After all the diarrhea. Right, yeah, you'd be... Unexplained low blood count.

Timothy Coleman (20:23.274)
You could be having celiac. Missed menstrual periods, that's already happening. Yeah. Infertility. Oh, well, I don't worry about that. Missed mom. Missed it. You missed it. But you know, you know, I'm not missing mine. I'm missing that. I'm missing mine. It's funny, though, because when you listen to Ms. Jackie speaking about.

song. You know, the way you... Sorry, Ms. Jackie. I mean, we're talking about food. We're talking about food. Yes. Food. The way you cook in that. That's right. And so, when you were talking about somebody with celiac or whatever, like, they didn't make it back then.

Timothy Coleman (21:06.427)
Right. They just didn't make it. No, no, no. They suffered. Yeah. They just didn't make it. They had to run and get sick all day. I won't say my sorority just in case. But I had a sorority sister who suffered for decades and didn't know she had scabs. And as soon as she stopped gluten, she felt so much better. Now, I'm going to have to leave you. I do want to say menstrual cycle. And as a lesbian, I said, are you going through your miracle of reproductive potential?

Timothy Coleman (21:34.883)
I don't say, are you on the ride? It's a miracle! Sage is going to miss you! Yes! I love Sage!

Timothy Coleman (21:46.31)
Well, this is what it's like being with family at the holidays. You get a little bit of everything, especially at Sage. And if you really want to see what it's like to be with family.

Timothy Coleman (22:01.654)
some spirits. Yes. And that changes the whole vibe. That changes the whole vibe. That's right. We all have that crazy Uncle Joe that looks around and does all those crazy things. You know.

You know, everybody has that crazy uncle that does all kinds of, you know, nonsense. My uncle Joe loved him. He was something. Alright, talk to us about it. He was the uncle that whenever there was like a Christmas dinner or whatever, holiday, we always sat down, us children, and we watched and said...

Joe's drinking that Johnny Walker Red. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he gonna be running around here and the men are taking the shoes off. It's all about, whoo! Chari's hot in here! Yeah. Open the windows! Then he's dancing all over the place. And then his brother comes in, and they bring up stuff from when they were kids. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. And now the fight, fighting starts. Yes. And I hear my mother, Billy, Joe, Billy.

Timothy Coleman (23:18.67)
That's right. It's hard to, it's hard to, I don't know what it is. Like even though there might not be spirits at our Thanksgiving's or even in Thanksgiving's past when all of us would get together, my brothers were always still like stirred up for no reason. You know what I'm saying? For no reason. The holidays bring out so many different things. Yes. The alcohol. No, but I mean even without it. No, but even without alcohol. You know, there's something about. Gathering and bringing up so many.

That's right, that's right. I mean, part of it for me, I do feel a little trauma around that time because I don't appreciate the world telling me now is when I'm supposed to be happy. What about the other months of the year, right? We're just like robots for 10 months and now all of a sudden, let's all just shop ourselves to death and eat ourselves to death and be around everybody. Like I, every time it starts to come up, I'm like, ugh.

Yeah. Anxiety. Yes. And this is what happens.

Timothy Coleman (24:27.414)
Right. You know, to cook this food and hire yourself out. Yes. To meet all these people. Yes. That you're gonna see just that one day. For real. And like the little competition of, oh, how's your life changed this year? Right, right. Are you still getting your degree? Oh, you gained a lot of weight. Oh, yes. I see that your daughter isn't all the way looking.

Right, the critiques, yeah.

Timothy Coleman (25:03.158)
Derrick got accepted into Morbisville. Yeah, they got into an HBCU. I don't know, what is your child doing? Yeah, it's too much. It becomes too much. It's caused animosity and stuff. And it's like, me as a child, I'll just be in the room trying to have a good time with my cousins. I'm not trying to have a competition with everybody on why do I look like this today? And then my mom coming in like, why do you look like this? You know people are coming over like, OK, so what? People are coming over. I don't care.

care.

get presentable because people are coming. Right, right, right. Why do we have to find them? They say, what, did you get a new hug? That's a new, yeah, I was gonna say that. Right, like everybody's... Why don't you get a hug? How many times you gonna go in the kitchen and get a plate? How many times you gonna get a plate? Oh, like, why are y'all watching? Oh, how many sodas you gonna drink? You can't drink some water?

Oh my god, but which goes back to what we were saying before, it's like this is your time to indulge, right? If I don't have one sip of water between November and January 1st, that's my business. You know what I'm saying? Like I can be as dehydrated as I feel like because that's my business. But like she was saying too, like they asked you know, did you get a husband? Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (26:34.548)
Right.

Timothy Coleman (26:38.794)
Yes, yes, yes. Because then they have to explain. My sister, the prissy one, they do the walnuts and the apples. She's got to explain to her parents what I'm doing with another person. Who's her friend? That's her best friend. Right, right. And they answer for you. They say before they come, they say she's bringing her best friend.

Timothy Coleman (27:03.269)
or then I just, you know, one time.

say boom that's it. I'm doing it.

Timothy Coleman (27:16.19)
You know, you got family, and they got chillin'. Chillin', chillin', chillin'. That's a unique breed, yeah, the chillin', yeah. They got chillin'. So I'm in the kitchen cookin', and one of them chillin'.

Timothy Coleman (27:34.842)
Oh

I will go to New York. That's the time. The holiday time. It's like every room is somebody.

People taking control of the TV, like, we watching football. Nobody gonna watch football. You can't handle that. You put the men in the room. The men, all the men are over there. And the women, they're gonna watch it. You can't watch everybody. Right, there's a lot. You got the kids in one room, you're in the kitchen, they're in this room. You gotta watch these people, because they might be doing stuff. Yes! It's not, it's not what's going on. It's

Timothy Coleman (28:16.782)
get up and go all the way to somebody else's house, and then now you gotta conform to what they got going on in their house and how they want stuff. So then where did all of this energy come from for the holidays? The tradition. Where did, you know what I'm saying? Like it's a tradition, like who were the first, but who were the first round of unhappy people, you know, who were the first round of unhappy people that passed all this drama down? You know what I'm saying? That they, you know what I'm saying? Like.

The pilgrims, you know what I'm saying? Like the unhappiest.

Timothy Coleman (28:52.442)
Okay? And just put it down for generations. It's just too much drama. It's too much drama. It is.

Timothy Coleman (29:03.534)
Yeah. Oh yeah. They welcome these people to their table and they stab them and they kill them. That's crazy. That's why we still have that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. The trauma from it. It's just true. They come with a trauma. Yeah, it's true. You're expecting aunt Sue and aunt Sue to come up with five other people. So I have to laugh at that because my grandmother was from southern Kentucky, right, and everybody settled like in the country of Ohio. And

she used to feed everybody. That was a highlight for her. Feeding every single person. And she had 14 kids. You know what I'm saying? And they were in the sticks. You know they didn't have like lots of money or whatever but they did raise a lot of their own stuff so it was like okay go kill another chicken whatever. But it's like that was a highlight but in today's times, sorry about that, in today's times in

inner city, when you do expect only the couple of people you invited and then they've invited and then a couple of them have a plus one and you know what I'm saying and now you've got a whole entire crowd, that does become like a little moment. You're right. My family is always. They can't control. Yeah. It's always expect the unexpected. That's the way that my family does it. Expect the unexpected. I hate the.

Timothy Coleman (30:27.942)
I hate Christmas, okay, because I am so stressed and traumatized during the holiday. All the expectations. That's it right there. It's all the expectations.

Timothy Coleman (30:50.287)
Right, right. To eat the sandwich.

Timothy Coleman (30:59.886)
I saw her on Thanksgiving. She made me disgusted because I used to sit there for three days before Thanksgiving with her prepping and helping trying to ease the load for her and it's like...

Because she was the person that's trying to make 30 sweet potato pies so that everybody that comes to go home with a pie. And we can eat some together. And it's like, that breaks you down. That's a lot of little jobs. That breaks you down. That's a lot. And it's like, all the people, all we coming with is attitude and liquor and problems. At the end of the day, all it come down to is now we're playing spades and people bend.

tables yelling about this and that. Now you got people in the back arguing about something that don't got nothing to do with Thanksgiving, nothing to do with anything that happened two years ago but we're still stuck on it. Now you got your uncle choking somebody up in the corner. That's hysterical. Yeah, you got a lot of stress. You're gonna have to...

Yeah, that's too it. Yeah, you gotta, you need to get some tickets. You need to fly to Hawaii. You need to trip. Like, you gotta avoid all of that. I'm the uncle. Thanksgiving is not like that. No?

Timothy Coleman (32:32.727)
drink, you know, we get a little loud. But it's not no fighting, it's not no somebody in the corner choking somebody. It's none of that. Yeah. It does sound so boring. Oh, yeah. We all like that. I like boredom. Yeah. Come on, boredom.

Come on, boredom. Yeah, no, I'm the uncle that lines up all the nieces and nephews once dinner is kind of wrapping up, before folks start trying to slip out. You done been the whole biggest scene all day. Now you're trying to tip on out. Get on over here. It's time to clean. Your grandmother's not doing it. Let's go. And line them right up. You know what I'm saying? And just make a little conveyor line out of it. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad that you do that. Oh, come on. And they know. They know.

Timothy Coleman (33:22.698)
Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (33:30.894)
We had the people that come to your house.

Timothy Coleman (33:37.9)
But they didn't bring anything. They didn't bring nothing. And you know you want to take something home. You know in advance you're going to want to take a plate. You know in advance.

Timothy Coleman (33:52.102)
There are two sides of it, right? This is a good point they're making. There's two, it's funny, there are two sides. Like when people show up, there's that side where people show up with nothing and then they leave with all your stuff. And then how she's saying, they show up with Tupperware and you're like, oh really? You expected a little bit. What did you bring? Right, right, right. Help me, you don't win, yeah.

Timothy Coleman (34:22.21)
Put a little more. Put, yeah, yeah. Jojo got a, Jojo got a head. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He couldn't get on work. We go take him a plate too, yeah. Jojo. They couldn't make it. Yeah, they couldn't make it. Now you feeding people you ain't even seen. Yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh.

Timothy Coleman (34:47.918)
So we're gonna have Thanksgiving from 6 to 10. And that's it. I have been to those Thanksgiving, yeah. Okay, Thanksgiving's from 6 to 9. Right. But you know you got those people that, they done went to somebody else's house. That's right. They like make it round. That's right. And they show up at you at 11 o'clock at night. That's right. And you done put up.

That's the total party time. We're not pulling food back out. No. Oh my God. Food hopping. Yeah.

Timothy Coleman (35:35.95)
close family member besides myself and one daughter. Everybody else is late. Everybody else is late because they're afraid they're gonna have to do too much work. Oh, they wanna come when they know that food is good and done, right? Like there's nothing. They're gonna be there.

Timothy Coleman (36:05.614)
She said she does.

Timothy Coleman (36:09.771)
Did you hear that?

Timothy Coleman (36:19.094)
That's hysterical. What were you gonna say? But Thanksgiving, I feel like when you limit it to...

Timothy Coleman (36:33.43)
few things that everybody.

Timothy Coleman (36:38.118)
to make a ham, someone else, they know they like macaroni and cheese. You know, you pull out the few signature dishes that people like, and you do the little play it in the house, like for whoever's in the house, it does become a lot easier. It's a lot easier.

Timothy Coleman (36:58.57)
I think she does too. I think she did, because she wasn't gonna make things given anyway. She wasn't gonna take over doing that anyway.

Timothy Coleman (37:11.19)
So if we cook it for just in the house, then we only making like four things. Oh, that's great. So you're making a ham, a turkey. See, that's different. That's different. A little green, some green. Maybe some greens. And then that's your Thanksgiving. And that's it. Maybe some green chow peas. Last year, we didn't make the whole. One of the fans had a whole. And we did Thanksgiving in the whole.

that we have a lot of people, but my daughter is in a new relationship, and those people, my God, I've never seen so many. It's hard, it's not. And one thing that I have to say about that family...

Timothy Coleman (37:55.743)
and my grandson. And I said, wow.

Timothy Coleman (38:06.794)
I could have left, I didn't have to bring anything. That's how much food that they had. So much food. Oh, wow, wow. But I mean, when everybody comes with that, that feels like a massive amount of love. You know what I'm saying? When it's like in abundance, yeah. First time that, you know, sometimes.

Timothy Coleman (38:23.706)
Sometimes. OK, I'm going to process it, but you keep going. I'm going to process that. Sometimes I have a hard time. You know.

Timothy Coleman (38:40.582)
Oh, that's wonderful. That's wonderful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. Well, we're gonna hang on to the first side of that story. Okay, we got... Wow, yeah, that's really good.

Timothy Coleman (39:16.599)
I have an aunt that she starts off with, you so trifling. Yeah. The minute you hear it. And that's the minute you become interested in football, right? That's when you. I was like, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you?

Timothy Coleman (39:39.729)
Because that's those, you know, when they say them fighting words, you know, that's when it really starts to kick off. Yeah, you're so trifling. But remember, we're pick-out friends. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, pick your family. That's right.

Timothy Coleman (39:57.162)
Today's life, you can't pick your family. That's true. We've caused a lot of holidays and stuff. I have decided to be missing from my family.

Timothy Coleman (40:09.494)
decided to be missing. And I have a whole nother family that I do things with. And I enjoy that.

There's no fighting, because they're not really related to me. Yeah, there's nothing to prove. There's nothing to, you know. New and improved people. Right, right, right. I love it. Well, this has been, I hope everybody listening has as much fun as I have. This has been joyous. I mean.

In all the stories, in all of the food, in all of the things that we discussed today, I guess let's all just say on the count of three, happy holidays to everybody, all right? Happy holidays! Okay, right, that's... Again, another holiday story, right? Because you set it up and then nobody paid attention.

Timothy Coleman (41:09.322)
Let's try again. One, two, three. Happy holidays. From Sage. Sage leads in addressing issues related to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and questioning and other self-identifying members of the community aging.

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